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Ramon Ro
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Posted - 2005.09.13 22:27:00 -
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Also known as tech 2 ships. I really dont see this much different than Master levels in some mmorgps or powerscrolls in uo.
These simply make tech1 version look like piece of junk and new player have no way to compete against these.
When I first started eve I was amazed of the skill system when I reliazed I didnt have to grind and skills I trained were like choices that gave me options for new modules or ships, but now i am reliazing that instead of grinding there is this horrible long waiting before you can get these competive skills. 
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Ramon Ro
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Posted - 2005.09.13 22:44:00 -
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 Originally by: Moghydin
You're right only in 1 case - in case that you're planning to play Eve exclusively solo.
Originally by: Ramon Ro
Also known as tech 2 ships. I really dont see this much different than Master levels in some mmorgps or powerscrolls in uo.
These simply make tech1 version look like piece of junk and new player have no way to compete against these.
When I first started eve I was amazed of the skill system when I reliazed I didnt have to grind and skills I trained were like choices that gave me options for new modules or ships, but now i am reliazing that instead of grinding there is this horrible long waiting before you can get these competive skills.
So in team t1 junk become better? How do you think equal gang with t1 mods would do against gang with t2?
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Ramon Ro
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Posted - 2005.09.13 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: Beovvulf
Ive lost a vagabond to a thorax. Ive killed a harpy in a kestrel. This game isnt all about your skill points. Pilot skills and putting good thought into a ship setup are much more important. Both of those come from hard work and experience.
You were doing something very wrong as well was that harpy pilot.
Doesnt change the fact that T2 ships are just like master levels. Saying that eve is all so different and special when it comes to skill training isnt true. It's true eve got offline skill gaining, but it also have long waiting before you can get effective is bad as long grinding.
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Ramon Ro
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Posted - 2005.09.13 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Remedial
T2 mods represent more risk for more reward. Somebody spent a lot of time and money getting together a T2 setup vs. the person who flies a T1 setup.
Compare the costs of a Dominix fitting 4 Cap Recharger Is (100k total) to 4 Cap Recharger IIs (>40M total). The second Dominix user spent more than 400 times what the original person spent on his ship, for a total benefit of ~20-25% more capacitor recharge per second. An Enyo costs more than 100 times what an Incursus costs. A Deimos costs 20 times what a Thorax costs. These costs are magnified by T2 ships lacking insurance.
Economically, it makes more sense to fly T1 ships, but it's much more fun to have the ability to risk a lot of money and fly a T2 or faction ship that has more advantages. I would happily give anybody that wanted to spend billions of isk on a Faction BS with Faction equipment all the advantages of the Marachiel over a Megathron, because I can lose 30 insured Megathrons to that guy's one lost Marachiel, and I would still come out on top.
In any given fight, the Marachiel outguns the Mega. But that doesn't mean he'll always win.
So you're saying that pvp comes down isk wars? Isk vs Isk? Time vs Time?
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Ramon Ro
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Posted - 2005.09.14 09:54:00 -
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Now which is easier to fit Enyo or Incursus? Other got more slots, more pg, more cpu. On top of that Enyo have more speed, better ship bounses, more armour, better resists.
Saying that t1 is competive as ever is like you are lying to yourself. T1 is cheap, but no way its competive. Just because some kestrel got lucky and got under wolfs guns before and got a kill doesnt make other races frigates anymore competive (you can only really do it with missile boats) or that thorax scores kill with its oversized drone bay doesnt help rupture.
Balance t1 and t2 ships or add new t1 ships that are expensive as t2, but also got more slots and bonuses like t2 ships.
And to player who asked me to quit. Nah, but i wount be playing for next month neither before i get myself t2 ships, because i have used enough t1 ships. Some players seem to think that being able to use transversal velocity and range for your advantage is like some sort of top secret and takes months to master... Take a look this http://www.eve-online.com/guide/en/g26.asp .
Next time you see me I am flying wolf. 
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